The Pokemon Thread

[YoshiKart64]

I just want Nintendo to avoid announcing a Pokemon game for the 3DS. If they do I'll have to buy one and I'm really not feeling the console right now.

Save it for the 3DS lite Ninty, then we'll talk.

[Pious the chosen]

Who knows with the new control interface they may actually make a Real PokéMon console game on the WiiU

[radiofloyd]

Pokémon Black 2, Pokémon White 2 Coming This Summer

As promised, Junichi Masuda, the director of Pokemon Black and White appeared on Japanese TV show Pokémon Sunday today to announce the next entries in the Pokémon series. They are Pokémon Black 2 and Pokémon White 2.

The games are scheduled to release in June for Nintendo DS systems, in Japan. DSi and 3DS players will apparently be able to take advantage of extra features.

Website Siliconera also reported that Masuda's announcement revealed two new forms for Kyurem (pictured above), which will be the games' mascots. Their names will be revealed late

http://kotaku.com/5888311/pokemon-black ... /gallery/1

I guess they fired the name guy.

When i read the news i thought it was for a new Black and White...

[YoshiKart64]

Wow. Really? I mean look at the mascots, they are literally a mutation of 3 of the legendaries from the last game.

Having said that, if this game has a new story I'm buying it. If not then I'm out. Either way this is weird, unprecedented and did I mention weird.

[Rotek]

I expect they'll just be varients of the 'original' Black and White - a la Yellow or Crystal. I'd be surprised if they were entirely new games - they're presumably saving that for a 3DS version. I don't think I ever finished my copy of Black, actually. Perhaps my attention span is a lot shorter than it was a decade ago in the Blue days

[DifferentClass]

I'm looking into getting a new Pokemon game as it seems my sister has lost my copy of Emerald (I have Leaf Green but I've played that game a few times already in some form, and Pearl is... you know... Pearl) and I'm just wondering what the end game content is like on newer Pokemon games. I've been after a copy of either Hear Gold or Soul Silver as I know after you "finish" it you have a whole new region to explore but I dunno if anyone else has tried buying that game now. New copies cost a small fortune (over £60 on eBay). Madness.

So should I continue to hunt for a Heart Gold or Soul Silver or does the others have good end game content too? I'm looking for longevity, really.

[maf-me-quick]

Confusing Post Alert!!

That's a hard question. HG/SS definitely has more post game content than any Pokemon game as far as I'm aware. It also has the best post game content, because, well it's Kanto. For any true blue (Or red?) Pokemon fan that's a hell of a gift. In HG/SS versions it's even better than the original because you also get access to a hell of a lot more Pokemon than just the original 251. Not all but a good number of Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokemon become available to you. Collectively between HG/SS I've put in about 210 hours and haven't caught them all (Never will now since I've transferred all of them to Black Version 1).

Also, I don't want to give it away, but there are some very 1-time desirable Pokemon you get in HG/SS you won't be able to get in Black & White.

That's not to say Black & White Versions 1 & 2 are to be sniffed at though. Between them games I've put in over 230 hours but consider the caveat that I've actually trained over 500 Pokemon on them games. But also haven't really touched any post game content in Black 2 yet which it seems as if there's a lot of. Done a couple of bits but I've also got a few more things to do which I can think of. Plus secrets to find I assume.

I think the thing to consider with the new games is they are "better" games than the old ones. The new Pokemon are generally great, the game is a lot faster than the old games and Versions 1 are very concentrated on being a new and core Pokemon experience. Versions 1 post game content is also sizeable, I think. It locks off a 3rd of the map to you until you've beaten the game + there's lots of things to revisit.

Versions 2 feels just like a remixed game to me. They've fleshed it out over the Versions 1 by having lots of content and side things to do but is it all good? Mostly, but some of it feels like filler and ineffectual on what you actually do in the games. It has more post game content, though, for sure and I suppose it won't feel remixed to you if you didn't play versions 1. Out of the new games, for length, Versions 2 is the way to go.

Ultimately, yeah, for longevity HG/SS far outweigh the new games I think, and have some really cool added extras over the original versions of them games. But if you played the original GBC games back in the day it's debatable how "new" they are exactly, right?

[DifferentClass]

I never played the original Gold and Silver due to playing Blue and Yellow quite a bit, and I think I was 17 or 18 or something when those games came out and I couldn't be seen playing those games then because of reputations and stuff. I only got Emerald because it came with a GBA Micro and I never knew until the lady at Argos told me at the counter it comes free with it. I tried it when I got home and rekindled my appreciation for the games, and at that point I was also old enough to not give a **** about reputations and stuff. So I'm just saying Gold and Silver passed me by which I do regret... and by the looks of things HG and SS are, too.

Thanks for the tips, anyway. I think going from what you say I may just go for Black or White 2. I'm not that fussed about a core Pokemon experience... in fact I don't really like how the Pokemon games are structured at times and one that mixes up that experience a bit may be something I'll prefer. Plus if it has the extra end game content then that's also a plus.

Cheers again.

[maf-me-quick]

When I say remixed the structure is the same, just some of the locations and the map is rejiggled plus old Pokemon appear before the credits. You're still getting 8 badges and fighting the league. When I said core experience I mean it has less frills than Version 2, but it's all new Pokemon on an all new map. Possible ends better, too.

But seriously, if you've never played any incarnation of G/S this conversation is over and I change my recommendations entirely. They are absolute must plays and although parts of it are outdated and slower they are some amazing Pokemon games.

[DifferentClass]

I'm sticking with my original decision! Stop making it overly complicated!

I'll keep an eye out for a copy of HG or SS, too. Maybe I'll pop into town and see if they have any left, or a nice second hand copy.

[maf-me-quick]

On a side note: I really hope one day Nintendo/Game Freak enable the chance to catch event Pokemon again. The only one I have is Shaymin and none of the others. I try really hard to fill the Pokedex but it really bugs me that there are these Pokemon that are just locked out. I'm sure there's a way to cheat but y'know...It's cheating.

Some of it is on me like I forgot when the dates were to download Victrini and Keldeo, but then there's stuff like Celebi where it's been almost 10 years. Give me another chance!

[maf-me-quick]

Some of it is on me like I forgot when the dates were to download Victrini and Keldeo,

He says, I don't know what bought it on but it but I looked up Keldeo and the 12th was the last chance to download it. I've been off work for a while sick so my dates all out of whack - Didn't realize today was the 12th!

Quickly just rushed up my mum's because she has internet and ta-da! I now have a Keldeo.

Well, that's one down!

[Maryokutai]

Keldeo is probably the ugliest Pokémon ever. I really hate it. It looks like a japanese version of My Little Pony and it’s as terrifyingly hideous as it sounds. Still good to have though, since it’s a one-time event. The cool thing about it though –– and something they should do more often in my opinion –– is that it learns a unique attack through a special script event. I always found it rather odd that every legendary uses the same attacks as normal Pokémon, so it’s quite refreshing that they mix it up a little now. So hopefully next time those Pokémon actually look the part as well.

[maf-me-quick]

It can't be traded to my Black Version with all my Pokemon on it.

Not totally down about it because they're all being prepped for X & Y anyway, but still. Bit weird that.

[Maryokutai]

Have you tried transferring it in its base form? The pseudo-evolved form is new in BW2, but you could get it in its base form in BW1 already, so I suppose that should work.

Because generally speaking the only new Pokémon in BW2 are Genesect and Meloetta (and Kyurem’s transformations if you want to count them), which means that everything else should be in BW1’s database as well.